Wine status report: Photoshop CS3

One of the advantages Ubuntu /Linux has over OS X is that it’s possible to run Windows applications. (DMXell: ‘Ever heard of Darwine? … you look like a noob.’ To tell you the truth; no, I haven’t actually. And I don’t want to look like a noob now, do I?) With Wine, Linux users are able to run thousands of Windows games and applications.

Wine is one of the fastest developed open source applications. A new Wine version is released every two weeks. Not only can you run World of Warcraft, but new and heavy games like Call of Duty 4 are also supported. One application that users have been wanting to run on Linux for several years is Adobe Photoshop. We’ve been doomed to use version 8 until recently. Google is helping out with the development to have Photoshop CS3 supported. As for now, Photoshop CS2 runs without any problems.

Here I’m running Dreamweaver 8 and Photoshop CS2 on Ubuntu. No tweaking or hacking needed. Just double clicked the exe files

However, a couple of hours ago Louis Lenders managed to install and run Adobe Photoshop CS3. He used the latest available source of wine (from git) which will be released in under two weeks as wine version 0.9.57 0.9.58.

As you can see the GUI is not correctly rendered yet

Give it a couple of weeks, and you can run your precious Adobe applications on Ubuntu / Linux
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To all you OS X fan boys: this isn’t a “Linux is better than Leopard and Vista combined and pwns the world!!1″-post. I know OS X can run Adobe applications. They were made for OS X in the first place. This is just a post with the latest status on running Photoshop CS3 using Wine.

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I just bought Photoshop CS4. When will Wine be able to make CS4 run smoothly under Ubuntu?

Comment by Sakura — November 1, 2008 @ 7:53 pm

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buen programa

Comment by franchesca lora — June 20, 2008 @ 12:00 am

@misha, @jon: I’m the wine 1.0 release manager.
I would like to fix the “Save for Web” problem,
but I can’t reproduce it! Please add a comment to
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12484
with your system configuration and how to
reproduce and recognize the problem. Thanks!

Comment by Dan Kegel — May 12, 2008 @ 10:49 pm

Darwine is ok – it has glitches though. I definitely would not use it to run things. I use it for testing web sites in IE on OS X…but it’s buggy as hell. I can’t see it running video games. VMWare fusion is better for all that. I run OS X and Vista…on a PC, OS X on an external drive. I’m thinking about switching to linux full time…but I NEED to be able to run Photoshop CS3 and my other PC apps. I’ll have to check out wine.

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Linux is better than Leopard and Vista combined and pwns the world!! I’m on OSX, but it’s still true. My ubuntu box makes meh happeh..

Comment by sikanrong — March 22, 2008 @ 4:26 pm

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Save for web doesnt work for me neither.
Great Article!
Greetings From Paraguay!

Comment by Marcelo Elizeche Landó — March 17, 2008 @ 11:36 pm

@Suzanne Langley
Thanks!

@Misha
Save for web doesn’t work for me neither

Comment by Jon Ramvi — March 16, 2008 @ 1:48 pm

Hey body, but “save for web” option and some other stuff actually doesn’t work on my ubuntu box (when running CS2 on wine). Is it something wrong with how i did it and really “Photoshop CS2 runs without any problems” ?

Comment by Misha — March 16, 2008 @ 11:42 am

I have visited this site on many an occasion now but this post is the 1st one that I have ever commented on.

Congratulations on such a fine article and site I have found it very helpful and informative – I only wish that there were more out there like this one.

I never leave empty handed, sometimes I may even be a little disappointed that I may not agree with a post or reply that has been made. But hey! that is life and if every one agreed on the same thing what a boring old world we would live in.

Keep up the good work and cheers.

Comment by Suzanne Langley — March 16, 2008 @ 6:48 am

@rasta_freak

Dude, quit being so ignorant, really…

Codeweavers supports Wine with each copy they sell of crossover, they employ Wine developers and everything they add to crossover is also added to Wine.. they are not proxies, they are directly involved with Wine

They sell support and satisfy the specific needs of their clients, by making the apps they need from windows run in crossover.

Their final objective is making Wine perfect. Refer to their latest blog post about this:
” I’d like to explain how we decide what to work on next and share our plans for 2008.
First, the big picture: the goal is to finish Wine so that it is a perfect reimplementation of the Windows API, thereby runing nearly all Windows applications flawlessly.”

If you are going to bitch about somebody taking Wine and not giving anything back, you missed the target… you should be talking about Transgaming and their Cedega/Cider products… next time take the time to investigate before making a fool out of yourself…

@everyone talking about parallels/vmware

first, as has been said, Wine is a different approach to the problem, so they are not comparable. no windows is needed with wine.

with that said, linux users can use Virtualbox to do the same parallels and vmware do, so it’s not something only mac can do…

Comment by Phobos — March 15, 2008 @ 6:32 pm

Sigh.

There is a big difference between Wine and the other methods to run Win apps.
Wine doesn’t require Windows!
You don’t need boot-camp (aka dual boot or triple boot.)
You don’t need to run a virtualizer like parallels, qemu, vmware, etc (these require a copy of Windows and have more overhead due to emulating parts of the hardware.)

So when Windows is gone, folks can run their Windows apps (especially if it was custom or no longer supported)
For example, Vista has no 16-bit support. But I can still play Castle of the Winds I & II with Wine!

Ultimately, if Wine can run Windows apps without the Windows… Why bother with it? The biggest reason I’ve heard for not switching (to anything else people. Whether it’s BSD, OS X, Linux, Amiga OS, etc.) is that Windows has the largest amount of 3rd party apps.
Now if these companies actually release native versions, it’d be a done deal.

Just to upset the fanboys/girls:

If you have Vista you have this
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

Here is a fun example with Hollywood using Linux to replace some OS X and Windows boxes.
http://delivery.acm.org/10.1145/1350000/1344214/9951.html?key1=1344214&key2=2488623021&coll=GUIDE&dl=GUIDE&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618

Linux can run on any platform. It is open to modification. It is not virus infested (do I need to say which OS is?). It has professional support if you want it, or you can roll your own. If the hardware works, and you’ve got the app. No reason not to, unless you have money to burn. :P There is a reason it’s in routers, super computers, phones, servers, desktops, etc.

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@People who’ve been saying “What about Boot Camp”: Boot Camp is a piece of firmware that allows Windows to boot up on Apple-branded computers. It’s analogous to dual-booting Linux with Windows. It’s not a virtualiser nor a compatibility layer.

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One note about speed in wine – for most games that run under wine, speed is better than under Windows. It’s true that GUI apps perform slightly slower, but it’s only about interface drawing (menus, windows, buttons…) – functionality “under the hood” is either the same or better under wine. And major advantage of wine over vmware/virtualbox/ is that it supports 3D (both openGl and directX), and as already mentioned – you don’t need windows installation at all (nor do you have to emulate any hardware).
One more thing – unfortunately, Google didn’t pay Wine anything, it paid CodeWeavers – faggots that take Wine for free, add few lines of their own code and sell this to naive suckers. I really hope that Google will be smarter next time, and not support “proxy developers” anymore.

Comment by rasta_freak — March 13, 2008 @ 9:16 pm

I tried getting Adobe Dreamweaver working w/ wine but no dice. I hear some people have got it to load and even though I followed their guide to a T, no luck :( I’m stuck in win32 land until then.

Comment by MiramarDesign — March 13, 2008 @ 2:50 pm

I love Wine… especially the red one :-)

Comment by iPhone Hellas — March 13, 2008 @ 2:13 pm

Google is probably helping Wine development to help themselves. They wouldn’t gain anything from helping the GIMP development. Wine on the other hand, makes it possible to run all their applications: Hello, Picasa, Google Earth…

Comment by Jon Ramvi — March 13, 2008 @ 12:46 pm

Beyond the flame wars…

Adobe knows what’s coming, Silverlight integration for software development. the suit is called Microsoft Expression Blend and it comes to try to take on Adobe’s design reign. (good luck with that)

I think google should have paid to make the gimp better imho.

thanks for the nice report

Comment by effie_jayx — March 13, 2008 @ 12:03 pm

What is Ubuntu / Linux?

Comment by /.ever — March 13, 2008 @ 11:10 am

Who’d have thought all the OSX drones would crawl out of the woodwork to defend their little minority OS…

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Mac may be able to run Adobe Products… but Linux users didn’t have to pay an arm and a leg to run an over priced system AND we get most of the benefits OS X gives. Good for these guys who are managing to create a better experience for Linux users. Can’t wait to remove my dual boot of Windows and switch completely over to Ubuntu.

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I just want to be able to sync my Zune on Linux, and if that means being able to run Microsoft’s Zune software on Wine, I will do whatever works. BTW: It doesn’t work yet. ;-( I wish Microsoft would open up their specs for syncing the Zune to a Mac or Linux.

Oh, Apple fanboys are stupid. I own/run quite a few Macs, Windows, and Linux machines. They all have their advantages/disadvantages. But these statements like “will Linux run iLife” are stupid arguments because I could do the same with “will OSX run Zune Software/Hardware, Outlook, Paint.net, Other OSX unsupported device or software here” or any other stupid argument that has nothing to do with anything…

The article is about Wine running Photoshop CS3. That’s it. No fanboyism please.

Comment by brokencrystal — March 13, 2008 @ 2:16 am

Ubuntu? Wine has absolutely nothing to do with Ubuntu. Sounds like Ubuntu fanboyism to me.

You obviously didn’t do any research at all. This is from the Wine homepage:

Wine provides both a development toolkit for porting Windows source code to Unix as well as a program loader, allowing many unmodified Windows programs to run on x86-based Unixes, including Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X, and Solaris.

Comment by FelipeC — March 12, 2008 @ 11:33 pm

I should second the Lightoom, Please find a way to run LightRoom, It is a big stopper for me to complete migration to linux.

Thanks

Comment by Sarah.kho — March 12, 2008 @ 10:51 pm

Ever heard of Parallels or VMWare Fusion? Runs windows under Mac OS X.

Comment by Frank — March 12, 2008 @ 9:58 pm

Best news I’ve read in a long time. Now finally I can leave that unstable, resource hogging, hopelessly slow OS behind for good. So far, I’ve only gotten as far as having 2 out of my three installations run linux. The one app that wasn’t up to speed was the photo editing.

Comment by angryton — March 12, 2008 @ 9:53 pm

How to run Steam using Wine:
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554

Comment by Jon Ramvi — March 12, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

I wish Steam ran through WINE, if you have the hookup on how to get it to work, let me know.

Comment by heartless_ — March 12, 2008 @ 8:56 pm

WOW!

I’ve not been following WINE, and the Adobe products. Thanks for the post.

I remember back in the days when M$ users would need to run Photoshop, and they could not switch to Linux. Or, that was what they said.

Given Google’s help, it looks like they might just be trying another way of getting on M$’s nerves. LOL!

Regards,

JJMacey
Phoenix, Arizona

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what about boot-camp? just asking Im not an osx user just windows and ubuntu

Comment by nomercy — March 12, 2008 @ 7:31 pm

People have locked onto the catch phrase “Wine isn’t an emulator.” Therefore, they think it won’t be slow. Sorry, you’re wrong. Every Windows program I have tried under Wine (of those that would even work) has been slow. If it doesn’t load slow, the interface is slow or there are countless delays where there shouldn’t be. I’m tired of the lies that Wine runs things faster. It most certainly does not in the real world.

Comment by Yonah — March 12, 2008 @ 7:08 pm

Worthy of note is that Darwine is a port of this project, Wine, to OSX.

Comment by Anonymous — March 12, 2008 @ 6:19 pm

Will you Mac fanboys stop it already? We all understand that being able to run applications natively is better. That is not the Linux communities problem; that is the software developer’s problem. This is an effort by the Linux community to improve interoperability, not become a Mac killer. Relax already.

As for the comment regarding time better spent making GIMP an Adobe-killer: Again, this team chooses to work on another product, not GIMP. Although this article may focus on making Photoshop work on Wine, as a whole, Wine is an implementation of Windows API on Linux so that eventually ALL Windows applications will work cross-platform.

Comment by Knock it off — March 12, 2008 @ 6:18 pm

Comment by Anonymous — March 12, 2008 @ 6:17 pm

This is great. Now if they would only get AutoCAD and SketchUp working flawlessly, I could completely switch from Windows to Ubuntu!

Comment by Anonymous — March 12, 2008 @ 5:57 pm

lol… I really didn’t mean to sound whiny. I’m a pretty avid linux user and I love the fact that Wine is progressing so well. I just think that time would be better spent making Gimp into the Adobe-killer that it could be rather than trying to port native Windows applications over to Linux.

Comment by tehscarab — March 12, 2008 @ 5:50 pm

Photoshop is awesome, don’t get me wrong, but GIMP is available and has pretty good imaging capabilities. Making bitmap graphics is kinda covered in Linux. Flash authoring is more important, in that there’s really no substitute in linux at the moment. Don’t say synfig. Making CS3 work will be great if the entire studio will work.

Comment by Anonymous — March 12, 2008 @ 5:39 pm

Rock on. Wine rules.

And to your question about HL2. Yes. Runs fine in both Crossover and Cider.

Comment by ths — March 12, 2008 @ 5:35 pm

Comment by Anonymous — March 12, 2008 @ 5:06 pm

Does anyone using Photoshop on Linux *pay* for their copy of photoshop?

Comment by Andrew — March 12, 2008 @ 4:54 pm

One of the advantages of OS X over Ubuntu/Linux is that there is a native version of Photoshop CS3, along with all the other design apps Adobe offers.

Oh, and can Linux run Final Cut Pro, iLife, Aperture, TextMate, Logic or ProTools? Uh, no, it can’t.

Comment by Josh — March 12, 2008 @ 4:52 pm

I can’t wait for full CS3 compatibility. I’ve been sticking with Windows mainly for the Adobe suite. I hope the other CS3 applications will work too.

Comment by Jay — March 12, 2008 @ 4:46 pm

Many thanks for this info, I’ll follow you to see how this proyect go forward

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everybody mentioning parallels and bootcamp are missing the point. some people don’t want a windows installation on their machines. ever think of that?

Comment by chipants — March 12, 2008 @ 4:39 pm

darwine…i love it!!As well as Linux

Comment by castle — March 12, 2008 @ 4:35 pm

Obviously you have no clue on the differences between Parallels, VMware & Wine. Why don’t you go do some research and then comment or better yet I will help you.

VMware & Parallels = Virtualization (You have to own a copy of Windows)

Wine = An implementation of the Windows API (You don’t need to own a copy of Windows)

Seriously, be familiar with what you are arguing about.

Windows has its purpose.
Mac has its purpose.
Linux has its purpose.

Who cares which is better!

Comment by dk — March 12, 2008 @ 4:33 pm

Agreed- if Adobe would just release Linux versions of their apps, the world would be a better place. Unfortunately- Adobe doesn’t seem to think it’s worth it. I can’t imagine it would be that difficult given OS-X’s BSD roots. Adobe isn’t known for their responsiveness to their customers anyway, so it isn’t all that surprising.

Comment by neowolfwitch — March 12, 2008 @ 4:33 pm

Lightroom, please!

Oh and tone the Linux vs OSX stuff down a notch. Wine is useful, but certainly no substitute for native support. The real solution is for Adobe to release a Linux version, which can’t be too hard if it runs on OSX. Or, of course, the Gimp could implement 16bit image support.

Comment by Mudkipper — March 12, 2008 @ 4:24 pm

“One of the advantages Ubuntu /Linux has over OS X is that it’s possible to run Windows applications.”

Have you not heard of Parallels and VMware? Both of these allow Windows applications to be run in OS X.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m an avid Linux user, but I think it’s important for the open source community to acknowledge what the other platforms are offering.

Comment by Matthew Kivett — March 12, 2008 @ 4:14 pm

So the Wine group makes great progress is porting your apps to Linux, and the the Mac Fanbois take offense and start claiming how their systems are superior? What a bunch of whiners.

Comment by Named — March 12, 2008 @ 4:01 pm

You have Wine, I have bootcamp. I much prefer 100% native support.

Comment by tehscarab — March 12, 2008 @ 3:59 pm

Wine implements the Windows API so it shouldn’t be any slower than the windows itself.

Comment by Anonymous — March 12, 2008 @ 3:55 pm

One of the great things about OSX is that I don’t HAVE to run Windows applications – I can just run Photoshop as a native binary.

Guess which one is faster, your Wine implementation or my native Intel binary? Thought so.

Comment by Anonymous — March 12, 2008 @ 3:43 pm

wow, all of the examples you mentioned are already made for the mac directly by the manufacturers. i would say that’s better than loading the windows versions in linux.

and have you ever heard of darwine? os x is unix after all.

Comment by Bill — March 12, 2008 @ 4:48 am

Although wine does not work as well in Mac OS X as of yet, some applications can be run in Crossover
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/

Comment by Anonymous — March 12, 2008 @ 1:30 am

0.9.57 is already out. I take it you mean 0.9.58..?

Comment by børge — March 12, 2008 @ 1:27 am

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