What should Ubuntu Eee 8.10 consist of?

Ubuntu 8.10 is soon due. Hence Ubuntu Eee 8.10 will be released in the beginning of November. But what should Ubuntu Eee 8.10 consist of?

  • Base it on Ubuntu Intrepid – you can read more about these features over at ubuntu.com

    • Nautilus file manager has tab support and Eject icons for removable drives in Places sidebar
    • File Roller archive manager now supports ALZ, RZIP, CAB, TAR.7Z file types also
    • This release brings much better support for hot-pluggable input devices such as tablets, keyboards, and mice.
    • Linux kernel 2.6.27. This is a significant release with better hardware and numerous bug-fixes which is believed will provide overall improvement for Ubuntu 8.10.
    • Encrypted private directory
    • Guest session
    • Network Manager 0.7, which comes with long-expected features
    • “Last successful boot” recovery entry
    • DKMS. Allows kernel drivers to be automatically rebuilt when new kernels are released.
    • Samba 3.2
    • PAM authentication framework
  • OpenOffice 3 ?
  • More closed source codecs, sun java and windows fonts ?
  • Customized kernel by Adam
  • Fixes fixes and customizations run at boot time by Ferry Hendrikx
  • Netbook remix mode / Regular desktop mode – changer

Do you have ideas for what we should include?

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September 28th, 2008 | EasyPeasy

163 comments

a good new name for Ubuntu Eee. Is
Ebente
Is that briliant
or did someone else think of it.
get it?
replace the 3 “U’s” with three “E’s”
sorry for the intrusion. i will go back to my hole till spring

Comment by inkdan — November 28, 2008 @ 10:14 pm

I just got my Eee, installed Ubuntu Eee and am loving it—thanks for your work on this!

I’ll add my vote to those suggesting a minimalist distro with super-fast boot times.

Comment by Sam Britt — November 26, 2008 @ 4:07 am

a light os…. no non strictly necessary apps…. no evolution no bluetooth no tomboy no totem no transmission no libmono no unnecessary ttf etc…. we can install what we prefer later… like mplayer and not totem, thunderbird and not evolution etc

Comment by Filippo — November 16, 2008 @ 3:52 am

Ubuntu-eee works better and is more useful than the Xandros that came installed on my 900A (1GB RAM, 4GB SSD). I have it installed with swap on an SD card and /tmp and logging pointed to tmpfs. Thank you so much.

Comment by Kim Kleyboecker — November 14, 2008 @ 7:19 pm

hi there,

jon, i really thank you for finally bringing Ubuntu to my EEE PC in an easy and non time intensive way. from spotting your project to a running system it took me a couple of hours – after a week of usage, i simply love it! ;)

to answer your question, in my opinion it is more important to have a stable basis with complete hardware support and a minimum amount of bugs. therefore i’d prefer if you just bugfix the hardy heron (a LTS!) until it is a “perfect” system on any EEE PC and then consider upgrading to ibex/jaunty/jaunty+1/etc… just for the competition.

keep up the excellent work,
flo

p.s.: like already said before, on of my top “feature requests” would be a shorter boot time (<60sec to idle desktop)

Comment by flomar — November 14, 2008 @ 2:01 am

Thanks for the work, this is nice on the 701. OpenOffice 3 would be sweet, I tried the regular Ubuntu ppa they released for Intrepid, but Ubuntu eee would have none of it.
If possible, also including the snd-hda-intel file for 701 users of Skype. The fix is easy enough, but this would be nice integrated.

I think the current os size is fine. I plopped in 2gb ram, so didn’t create a swap on install and I still had enough room to add plenty applications and games. Maybe another suggestion, if possible, would be to have the partitioner select “Ext 2″ as the default for the install process.

And maybe leave a space at the top toolbar so we can more easily select toolbar properties (like autohide and such). It took me a while to figure this out for nbr. Having Add/Remove as default would be nice too, I got spoiled on that and cried my way through Synaptic before figuring out where Add/Remove was hiding.

I changed my desktop background to black so the nbr screen didn’t look so hokey. I mean, it looked beautiful regardless, I just didn’t like seeing the regular desktop behind the nbr screen.

Again though, great job! The tweaks I’ve had to do for my eee are way less and a lot easier than putting Ubuntu on my Aspire One. The website has a nice polish to it too.

Comment by David — November 13, 2008 @ 5:43 am

Try this daemon to control Fn keys and CPU speed
http://greg.geekmind.org/eee-control/

I think it’s much better than the default eee-config

Comment by Jaume — November 13, 2008 @ 1:49 am

Please please please cut the OS back a bit more!

No CUPS, no manufacturer-specific printer drivers, bare minimum of logging by default, no braille, bare minimum of extra libraries, don’t double-up on applications purely to provide extra choice.

Less is more on resource-constrained hardware!

Comment by Charlie Dobbie — November 13, 2008 @ 12:35 am

I would highly suggest a Full system backup utility :)

In favor of the ‘Ubuntu-Eee’ OS

Please someone let me know if there is one…

Thanks,
midnitemac.com

Comment by Midnite Mac — November 12, 2008 @ 7:09 am

Support for the AA1 110/150 to fix the Realtek and Cardreader problems…

Comment by Gator — November 10, 2008 @ 10:10 am

oh also, i’m on a 701 and the ubuntu eee DOES feel a bit slow and sluggish… and youtube and flash vid clips that used to play fine on the xandros system stutters on the ubuntu eee.

other than that i LOOOOooove it! great job and thank you very much.

jin

Comment by jin choung — November 9, 2008 @ 11:08 pm

How about using Songbird instead of the usual players.

With the right plugins it means it works better with iPod/iTunes…

Comment by MattV — November 9, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

As the Tech Coordinator for a school district I can see a few small things that if added would be a huge deal for school districts. First, it would be nice to have just a few edu and game packages included by default. The Eee Pc distro and Linpus lite include these by default. Second, a management app maybe based on sabayon so the settings can be locked. Lastly, an imaging app that allows admins to set up a netbook exactly as they want, then build an installable image that anyone can install. I’m talking installer that’s almost fully automatic with maybe a couple key presses. This way flash drives or SD cards can be distributed and installed by admins, teachers, or students themselves.

I think netbook remix is off to a fantastic start, just maybe it could be made a little bit more friendly for the education environment. With some tweaks I could see schools all over the nation wanting to adopt this platform for 1 to 1 setups.

Comment by Phil Grace — November 9, 2008 @ 3:35 am

100% hardware support, above everything else, for every eee model – particularly for the 1000 ;)

Second: release as soon as possible.

Third: fast boot

Fourth: Drop excess software and let people install what they want.

Comment by husman — November 7, 2008 @ 1:03 pm

it should include all the tweaks which were necessary to do after ubuntueee 8.04.1 (tmpfs,FF settings, screensaver passwd, apt-sources, …) which makes it easier for the user. Maybe there should be a NBR Version and also a Gnome Version (or XFCE). I would choose Gnome instead of NBR. Hmmm, hardwarebutton support would also be nice (eee-control or similar).

Comment by forlau — November 7, 2008 @ 12:07 pm

100% Hardware support, fast boot time and released as soon as possible. :)

Great work guys!

Comment by zac206 — November 7, 2008 @ 9:44 am

You should include mozilla sunbird and all app in the language requested

Comment by jgdp22 — November 7, 2008 @ 4:24 am

I’d love to see some sort of “skin” capability for the remix interface – like the system used for windowmaker, etc.

Comment by Trewornan — November 7, 2008 @ 3:55 am

Drivers work great on h1000, except of hibernate and the buttons on top of the keyboard. I was so surprised, how well everything went, that I even donated some money ;)

My wishlist for Ibex:
- fastest possible boottime is very important for a netbook
- walkman mode
- normal desktop switch
- tabs for nautilus
- working hibernate

Looking forward to the release, you made this netbook perfect.

Comment by Julian — November 4, 2008 @ 10:52 pm

Yep, I’ll second Lu’s idea, the 1st and top priority in my own opinion is to get hardware 100% functional.
Then, I think jon’s proposals are good: netbook remix changer, faster boot, stability … And btw, thanks a lot for your work jon :)

Comment by dominique — November 3, 2008 @ 11:02 pm

Great distro, but hardware support has to be the biggest seller and getting volume, brightness and wifi to behave. Also battery life is a concern. In software terms as long as the basics are covered such as browser, office, audio, video, image editing, IM then users can add packages as they wish. Keep it lean and mean!

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GIMP
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Skype
aMSN
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We should drop excess software in favor of maual installation of software, therefor we should add the “Add/Remove Software” Menu entry to the launcher!

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Comment by alexanderpas — November 2, 2008 @ 8:06 pm

I’d love to see VLC and/or Songbird in as default media players.

Also to netbook-remix/normal desktop switch sounds like it is an essential include. Hope it made it in :)

Comment by JJ — November 2, 2008 @ 6:34 pm

I’d like to see VLC become the default media player of totem (i believe), because it has the codec support out of the box and cpu usage is a ton better (I can watch a movie while prefetching a youtube video in VLC, not in the default video player. Keeps down on the install on the little 4GB OS drive (eee 901 linux).

Comment by Andy L. — November 1, 2008 @ 10:47 pm

I’d say, making the internal microphone work would be nice.
My eee 900′s mic doesn’t work with Skype… I reckon this should be a BIG priority.

Comment by Jonathan — November 1, 2008 @ 7:23 pm

maybe detection of which eee you have and how much memory and tweaking a few things like firefox memory caching and stuff so that larger youtube and flash video clips can play… also, a overclocking and cpu/temp monitor would be nice.

Comment by jin choung — November 1, 2008 @ 4:13 am

It sure would be nice if wireless would work on the eee 1000.

Comment by Steve — November 1, 2008 @ 1:49 am

As I use my eee mainly on public transport to kill the time, I’d like to see the SCUMM VM installed in the games section. That way I can get some adventures going.

Comment by MiG102 — October 31, 2008 @ 2:33 pm

I’d love to have support for my USB HSDPA modem stick (Huawei), so I can truly use my eee’s mobility.

Comment by VTallo — October 31, 2008 @ 2:26 pm

It will be great if it can have an nx client (nomachine maybe) and a openvpn client.

thank’s

Comment by angel — October 30, 2008 @ 4:26 pm

Ubuntu eee should include some sort of utility that include the download # or “Cloud” of various programs to help direct newbies to programs/games/utilities that more experience user find usable or interesting.

There’s too many options in the generic Synaptic Manager such that it confuses folks about what is good, popular or not.

Comment by DroofusU — October 30, 2008 @ 3:17 am

All operating systems, including yours should have custom drivers installed which for which I commend you. But Everyones looking for a 5 second boot time. Unfortunately I dont know linux code like I did Dos. And that probably goes for a lot of people trying your system. Of course Im doing it because its open source and theres a vested interest for all of us. But speed is what everyone strives for. Please keep that in mind. Im certainly no wiz, but the promise of flash drives and solid state drives was to quicken everything.

Comment by Ron — October 29, 2008 @ 12:23 am

I think that it should include a way to set up software raid from the install, as in, set up the ssd and sd card in a raid array to increase the speed and disk size of the eee

Comment by angel12 — October 28, 2008 @ 8:43 pm

First, hats off to you! Second, I STRONGLY agree with what has already been stated by others: if this is the “Eee PC” version of Ubuntu (Canonical trademark, all rights reserved, yada, yada…) then it makes absolute sense to first focus on 100% total hardware compatibility (i.e. kernel customization). Most people would much rather figure out how to install software package “x” than trouble-shoot a piece of hardware to work that ideally should have worked OOTB.

Comment by Jason — October 28, 2008 @ 6:13 pm

Please, ensure that touchpad configuration works. ueee 8.04 is almost great on my 901, but it is torture trying to type on the tiny keyboard with the cursor jumping all over the place at the slightest brush of the pad.

I’ve tried installing the touchpad config applet, but it complains about missing entries in xorg.conf, and have been so far unable to enable it.

I installed intrepid rc yesterday, and it is impressive how much more usable u-eee is on a netbook than stock Ubuntu. BTW, the touchpad config applet does not work on Intrepid either.

Intrepid is shaping up to be the non-event of the year, and I would happily stay with Gutsy if it were not for some updated apps… but very little is usually backported, which keeps us on the semianual system update.

Comment by Nacho — October 28, 2008 @ 11:49 am

Viktor,

I had to enter my Eee 901′s BIOS and disable the Intel Speed Step under the CPU options to keep my machine from entering sleep or standby every 5 minutes.

The problem doesn’t exist in WinXP SP3 with it enabled, so I’m guessing it’s just a lack of Intel source codes for the Atom processor causing the problem.

Hope that helps.

Comment by Tom — October 25, 2008 @ 8:23 am

I miss setup of “walkman” mode, to prevent computer go to sleep when you listen music or watch the film, as well wondering how to set it up as a portable media center include remote control, how to use it to keep it running on battery as long as possible…
otherwise I’m very happy with version 8.04 on EEE1000, good job guys!

Comment by Viktor — October 24, 2008 @ 10:36 pm

I have a 901 with XP, which I need for nav software. I’d like a really easy pre-scripted way to get Ubuntu eee onto an external drive without screwing up the XP setup. I don’t want dual boot – just to select at startup via the esc key.

Otherwise, thanks for a great job!

Comment by Phil — October 24, 2008 @ 6:14 pm

neilmcnasty, eeeubuntufan, our target audience is newbies / windows users. Advanced linux users know their way around anyway.

Wally Grotophorst, thanks for the heads up :)

XeKtRuM, cool! is it possible to rewrite it to rely on something stable?

Akshathkumar Shetty, Adam has checked it out. It seems to be a true article, but there isn’t that much to copy into our kernel from it. The new “lean kernel” boots somewhat faster though.

Syrid, I just wrote this for you :) http://ubuntu-eee.com/wiki/index.php5?title=Install_Microsoft_Office

Jonathan, Ubuntu Eee will probably work flawlessly on the Dell mini. Please try it out and report back if something isn’t working. We want all netbooks supported :)

Matt, that’s not our decision, but I know Adam (kernel developer) is doing a great jonb sending kernel patches and fixes to Ubuntu

Lars, it’s not in the as-few-questions-as-possible-spirit. The first page that appears in Firefox could include a “Remove Netbook Remix” howto though

Pedro Augusto, I’m not sure I understand. Does OpenOffce 3 have a problem with complability?

Wanted:
better touchpad (advanced settings panel, GSynaptics, better driver, disable while typing), faster boot, longer RC period, kde-meta-package, mount all internal drive at startup, over clocking and fan speed applet (eee-control, eee-applet), scrolling screen over max resolution, msn video chat (amsn), plug and play 3G modems (asus-3gtool), encrypted root (not the same as private home directory), compiz, vpn client, better muti screening, wine, better and faster web browser, e-mail reader, better wireless (manager, wicd, launch2net, driver), keyboard layout indicator, better battery time, unionFS, no blue Asus OSD, support for more netbooks, picasa 3 beta, Firefox extentions (Adblock), easier installation (scripts for other linux distros like Xandros and Wubi for Windows), change video player (vlc, mplayer), cloud syncronization, apple file protocoll, simplified virtual private network application, web explorer (Firefox 3.1 beta, Opera, Chrome / Chromium)

Comment by Jon Ramvi — October 24, 2008 @ 1:17 pm

Signal strength meter when you float the mouse over the network icon. I set up my WLAN manually if that is a consideration.

Thank you,

– Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 24, 2008 @ 1:02 am

Open Office will be great!
Will be fixed all issues about compatible?

Comment by Pedro Augusto — October 23, 2008 @ 9:02 pm

Hi! This is my third day with Ubuntu eee on my one month old Asus eee 900. I do have Ubuntu 7.10 on my desktop PC at home, so it’s not a completely new OS. I do find ubuntu eee to be much slower than the default OS, Xandros, but I do like it anyway, but the netbook remix I removed directly. I didn’t find any good howto to be able to remove it and to get all menus etc back as the OS looks on my desktop. Minimizing app didn’t work. Therefore I’d like to able to select netbook remix gui at install time if I want to have it. If not, it should have the look and fell of the desktop version. Could it be possible? Thanx /Lars

Comment by Lars — October 22, 2008 @ 7:32 pm

Is there any chance you can offer the kernel package in the ubuntu repo? For example I want to run core Ubuntu 8.10 but would like to run the kernel you build.

Comment by Matt — October 22, 2008 @ 3:57 am

Open Office 3.0 is a must, in the new Ubuntu eee 8.10, that I read some days ago that will be named “Ion”.

Comment by Diego — October 21, 2008 @ 10:30 pm

Needs the new firefox 3.1! Lot faster rendering

Comment by Eee User #8 — October 21, 2008 @ 10:24 pm

I really like Ubuntu eee on my eeePC 1000H.

In addition to standard Intrepid change, two things I really like to see are faster boot time and longer battery life (better power management).

I only get little over 3.5 hrs on eeePC right now, and that’s a bit disappointing.

I personally like Maximus interface. it may look like it can do less than normal desktop, but for my purpose, I haven’t found anything i can’t do on Maximus compared to standard Gnome, and I think it effectively uses the limited desktop space.

Comment by M.Y. — October 21, 2008 @ 7:28 pm

Drivers drivers drivers drivers! This should be priorized! I’m on a eee710SSD and would like to have wifi, sound and webcam to work straight after an install! – a script could be added during the installation phase in order to setup drivers/on-board peripherals.

Comment by Bloxorz — October 21, 2008 @ 3:02 pm

A Bluetooth manager should be installed by default (Eee 1000H has standard a Bluetooth chip).

Comment by Arno — October 20, 2008 @ 11:30 pm

much better battery life
wifi that *really* works out of the box (eee901) and starts up automatically on startup
all peripherals (camera,sound,mic,wifi,touchpad) etc have some kind of applet to control them, and settings that persist across reboots
generally better hardware support
keyboard debounce improvements?

Comment by MAZ — October 20, 2008 @ 11:00 pm

The Eee 1000 has enough disk space for most uses, but a simplified virtual private network application would really be nice. Many of us would like to control and use the disk space of a remote computer with our little machines.

Comment by Dale — October 20, 2008 @ 10:55 pm

” eee-ubuntix ” is the name I’m trying to promote. This legal dragon must be slayed, because wikipedia speaks of it:

Trademark issues

On September 10th 2008, Canonical emailed Jon Ramvi, the main developer of the project, complaining the project’s use of Canonical’s names, URLs, and logos violates Canonical’s trademarks.[3] The owners of the project have not yet announced a new name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Eee

[3]
http://www.jonramvi.com/mail-from-canonical/

– Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 20, 2008 @ 7:03 am

“Ubuntu-eee remix” — name is cool with registered trademarks of Canonical Ltd Legal dept.

–Burt B.
P.S. They said their marketing dept will help with designing a new logo.b

Comment by Burt B. — October 20, 2008 @ 5:21 am

I have a 7.0 eeepc ubuntu installation with root full disk encryption.

Ever since the 8.0 series eeeubuntu cuts started this feature has been missing. Is there any way possible it can be added back? Full root disk encryption is my top priority for the eeePC.

Comment by privacyguy — October 19, 2008 @ 9:41 pm

- I do wish ubuntu eee 8.10 will do it !
- It was working perfectly with 8.04. It doesn’t with 8.04.1
- When I plug in a CD/DVD rewriter, I’m told “mount needs to be the super user”(or something like that) and I can’t use any CD/DVD
- I haven’t been able to fix that

Comment by chevillot — October 18, 2008 @ 10:16 pm

Installed this like a dream on a friend’s 901. Now about to try with my new 1000h.

My requests would be OpenOffice 3 and seemless upgrade from 8.04. Latter being more important. We pay for data transfer by the MB in Russia so downloading 700MB each time is prohibitive (plus rather wasteful). No one wants to keep wiping their system to reinstall.

Thanks for all your hard work though. This project has deeply impressed everyone I’ve shown it to.

Comment by Nick Wilsdon — October 18, 2008 @ 4:43 pm

Yeah, a faster boot time would be a bless. Especially for a netbook like the eee.

Comment by Righteous — October 18, 2008 @ 12:05 pm

Boot = 5 seconds?

Hell I’d pay to have a boot time of 10 seconds!

That linked article on boot time is way over my head technically, but the theory seems simple enough. I mean honestly how many services do we need on by default on an EEE? Any one who needs more can enable them on their own.

Comment by Leadmagnet — October 18, 2008 @ 6:19 am

Hope can get AFP for communication between Mac and eee pc.

Comment by BirdJay — October 17, 2008 @ 5:54 pm

one click overclock.
better optimized for the slow processor.
maybe if possible a way how to go to power safe mode.

Comment by Max20 — October 17, 2008 @ 12:06 pm

I tried v8.10 beta on my 701 and found wifi does not work. This isn’t an encouraging start.

Comment by Yves — October 17, 2008 @ 6:13 am

heres my list. alot are not likely for this next release but it would be awesome if someone started working on everything here… =)

1. Ubuntu eee 8.04.1 must be upgradable without reinstall and everything must work on every model outa the box (hibernate, suspend, function keys, wifi, LAN, camera, etc.)

2. boot speed = 5 seconds? (http://lwn.net/Articles/299088/)

3. decreased swappiness (this has probly been done already..)

4. inclusion of eee-control? (http://greg.geekmind.org/eee-control)

5. a simple overclocking tool would be AMAZING(sudo protected of course) for FSB, CPU and fan. im too afraid to do this on my own.

6. please, please disable trackpad while typing. please god. and more gestures maybe?

7. get rid of the ASUS OSDs? ubuntus got its own (nicer looking) OSDs so we dont need em.

8. automated profile and user data backup (a la Time Machine) to online storage like the new eee Storage or maybe just filedropper. (remembers what packages/programs are installed, personal files, settings, etc.) this could help get around upgrade problems that may occur later.

Comment by chubbstar — October 16, 2008 @ 9:39 pm

Need the option when creating the SD to make it Live or Persistent.

– Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 16, 2008 @ 8:48 pm

I tried 8.04.1 from a sd-card. well, it looks good, but it starts sooooo sloooooow. :-(
wifi doesn’t work right.
I also tried a normal Hardy from USB-Stick in “don’t touch” mode.
Somehow now my normal eee xandros doesn’t work any more, the background and laucher is gone, only the task bar is there. How do I now start programs? :-(
All such show stoppers must not happen.

Comment by me — October 16, 2008 @ 4:18 pm

Call it eee-buntix.

I would like to see the external VGA port work under Fn + F5 — only after Fn + F2 is working.

I haven’t tried it under xandros yet, and really don’t want to, but xrandr is at little to technical for me right now.

Cheers, and keep on keeping on, the clean pride of achievement and accomplishment is its own reward.

After the bills are paid first, of course…

Over and Out,

– Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 16, 2008 @ 3:44 pm

Re-branded as soon as possible, because it really is not okay to call it as Ubuntu variant. Wiki pages checked, because there are number of outdated pages. People like me to support this outstanding project, because otherwise it would not prosper ;)

Comment by Sami Serola — October 16, 2008 @ 3:06 pm

First of all thank you for all your work with Ubuntu eee.

As to what I would like to see in 8.10 would be perhaps the use of mplayer from the medibuntu repositories. I.e the functionality of quicktime movies and other codecs oob.

Also perhaps if there is time to work on the boot speed.

Comment by Markus — October 16, 2008 @ 1:42 pm

What should 8.10 have?

That’s easy. It should match hardware support with the Included Xandros distro. and then concentrate on improving performance (boot time, optimized settings).

We’re dealing with a relatively small set of hardware here. So getting full support for it should be fairly simple, then optimizing should come next. work from the assumption that all machines will be stock. Any mods and additions can be supported through the wiki.

The ideal Ubuntu EEE would work flawlessly on any EEE you purchase. Get the boot times down to even just twice the stock Xandros boot times, and you’ll have no real reason to ever use the Xandros at all.

Comment by Carpe Mortis — October 15, 2008 @ 5:16 pm

Hi,

Excelent work with eeeubuntu.
Is there a way of installing the eeeubuntu with wubi? I would help a lot of people that also use windows.

Comment by Pedro — October 15, 2008 @ 1:36 am

Compared to the original EEE, EVERYTHING should function (camera, mic, volume control, flash memory saving settings out of the box, etc.), NOTHING should miss, and as much as possible it should be BETTER: more runtime, quicker startup, easier network connection, more supported hardware (wifi and UMTS USB-sticks), additional functions (geolocator with USB-mouse), seamless and functional updating/upgrading, better security, etc.
And installation should be a 1-step process which needs no tuning to get at the bare minimum what it was before, without any hidden downgrading.

Comment by me — October 14, 2008 @ 7:32 pm

It should boot well right away if it’s on a sd card and, ideally, it should be able to recover from sleep and hibernate. It should boot faster. It should also keep in mind that some machines have only 2Go of flash.

But, I have to say, I’m super impressed with my ubuntu-eee. I never expected it to work so well with so little hacking.

Comment by Mokawi — October 14, 2008 @ 3:27 am

I must say that (3) comments on this forum completely nail down the Raison d’être, (“reason for being”), of this distro:

#1 Comment by Don — October 12, 2008 @ 10:56 pm, “I’d be happy to see this Ubuntu 8.04.x build/distribution successfully customised for the all eeePC models. Concentrate on that, and that alone…Installing apps is easy, why bother? Improve the Wiki to explain for noobs how this is done.
Further, there’s something wrong with how this site renders in my eeePC’s FFX 3 browser – the left margin is shifted off the screen. Thanks for all the effort so far”.

# 2 Comment by manysounds — October 12, 2008 @ 4:40 pm, “…You may need a poll to help decide what packages are included”.

Albeit a regular vote is much too time consuming…

I would suggest a 5-point grading system that ranges from:

Must Have – to – Don’t Want.

It would be much faster to grab stats from that because I know that Jon, Adam and others are determined to get the final release out to the community ASAP.

# 3 Coming Full Circle to the Very First Post:

Comment by Lu — September 29, 2008 @ 12:48 am, “I think whatever it will consist of one thing for sure it must be complete – all hardware must work under it including the 901. It must be so good that Asus couldn’t resist replacing this over the orignal Linux! ;) ”.

Truly the goal should be to get commercial backing, support, and Exposure To The Masses – from the OEM – Asus.

I’m sorry, but as a self-proclaimed total newbie, I feel that I have just walked away from an ailing and decrepit Model T, (the factory installed Xandros)… into a brand new Lamborghini… ubuntu-eee.

I can still smell the new leather seats and I still have the feel of the responsive steering wheel, accelerator, trans, clutch & brake.

With that said, I still have to keep a full-blown factory standard Xandros system up and running, because they did do one thing right:

They made sure that all the hardware worked with the software and vice versa.

– Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 14, 2008 @ 12:05 am

funny thought just came to my mind…what if..what if… we would create guide how to install microsoft office 2007 on ubuntueee
to the wiki. So that it would be easy to install MS 2007 on ubuntueee. In theory it is possible.
This does not concern so much ubuntueee 8.1 OS itself, but thought if someone has free time this would definetly bring some users to ubuntueee project. the problem seems to be memory..and i wonder how to solve that.

So my suggestion is that in net edition we somehow reduce memory usage.

Comment by Syrid — October 13, 2008 @ 1:40 pm

With Ubuntu-eee-8.04.1 on my ASUS EeePC 701 the inbuilt microphone and camera are not recognized but the speaker sounds.
(tested with Skype and it’s opinions)
Hope, it will work with
Ubuntu-eee-8.10?

regards
Manfred

Comment by Manfred Laun — October 13, 2008 @ 12:13 pm

Fix bug re sd/usb drives being mounted read only. (Fixes listed in forums DON’T correct the problem.)

Comment by levitis_leviathan — October 13, 2008 @ 3:45 am

Fix the problem with sd/usb devices being mounted read only.

Comment by levitis_leviathan — October 13, 2008 @ 3:42 am

I’d be happy to see this Ubuntu 8.04.x build/distribution successfully customised for the all eeePC models. Concentrate on that, and that alone. I first installed the basic 8.04 eeePC build on my eeePCs and configured the various fixes for sound, wifi, etc, followed by the Netmix interface and it all worked fine. After rebuilding with the 8.04.1 Gold build I’ve had to do a similar amount of reconfig to fix sound & wifi. Installing apps is easy, why bother? Improve the Wiki to explain for noobs how this is done.
Further, there’s something wrong with how this site renders in my eeePC’s FFX 3 browser – the left margin is shifted off the screen.
Thanks for all the effort so far.

Comment by Don — October 12, 2008 @ 10:56 pm

O! Another idea!
When doing a complete wipe/fresh install if the partitioning could be set up optimally for each model between the 2 drives automatically it would help the inexperienced greatly.

Comment by manysounds — October 12, 2008 @ 4:43 pm

I would love to see 2 versions.
One version would be default Ibex and only contain the fixes (flash10, shutdown, hotkeys, wifi -all that seems bugged!) …yeah I guess this could be corrected with a script…

Second version with the netbook remix interface and the hand-picked packages.
-not piccasa because it doesn’t detect my camera :)
You may need a poll to help decide what packages are included

Comment by manysounds — October 12, 2008 @ 4:40 pm

Sorry with Ubuntu-eee-8.04.1, I could not connect inton the Net with UMTS (Modem: Huawei E220 by Vodafone) in the networkmanager.
My Netbook is an EeePC 701 with
ASUSU/Xandros 4.0 using an special Connection-Manager, the ‘asus-3gtool’, which is automatically reading the ‘SIM-Card’. So it’s as ‘eeePC’ indeed very easy! Only logging in with the PIN-Number, that’s all,
without configuring the networkmanager!!
Such special os for “Netbooks” should include these possibilities,
connecting into the Internet.
LAN, WLAN, UMTS-Broadband and Bluethooth.
(Hope the Ubuntu-eee-8.10 will do that.)

Cheers,
Manfred

Comment by Manfred Laun — October 12, 2008 @ 1:38 pm

I would love to see Picassa 3 included, if you have not tried it, do. Its faster, more stable and more productive than Fspot wich is super crashy for me.

Comment by surfed — October 11, 2008 @ 5:38 pm

Fix 901 freezes when Fn+F2! I wa about to reinstall Xandros right away because of this.

Comment by 901er — October 11, 2008 @ 1:53 pm

Dear David,

I-really-need-this-working-on-the-eee-pc would describe me exactly.

Like you, the eee pc will be my only working system very soon.

I’m running with a 701, but I would like to see every single model, sub-model and chipset of the eee pc fully exploited – especially that notorious WLAN – which seems to be giving a lot of folks grief out there.

Although I’m very happy and excited for the people who installed this distro on another full-size laptop, um… this is all I got. It just has to work on all eee pc hardware.. period.

I have to be able to completely depend and rely on this hardware and the distro that comes out of this collective effort.

Otherwise, I would be lost in time and lost in space.

This would severely affect my ability to make a living, so my survival instincts are kicking in here.

If some clever individual(s) could write a backup system, (specifically aimed at the eee pc and this particular distro), that would mirror precisely all of your personal settings, data and installed packages then migrate that info to an upgrade – would you consider moving up to 8.10?

I think that the brilliant individuals who made this happen in the first place, are striving to give 8.10 the ability upgrade over the 8.04.1 current installation without having to completely re-install and wipe away all of our precious settings and data.

I sincerely hope that this the case, because I just got through a 3 day hair-pulling ordeal to get a certain function to work.

Down the road, when 8.10 comes out, I’m not going to remember the exact sequence, (and what the people who helped me said to do), that was required to solve that problem !!!

And I rely on that function heavily.

Can someone Please write a backup routine that we can be entirely confident of?

Even if the miracle of installing 8.10 over 8.04.1 is accomplished, I would still like to be able to back this dude up – for those times when God Forbid, I completely trash the system, and I NEED All of My Stuff Back !!!

ouch.

I hope that never happens…

But, you know us human beings… anything is possible.

– Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 11, 2008 @ 5:11 am

Dear buttz,

It’s not about what i can or can not do for myself. As i see it, it’s about making this distro work as good and easy as possible. For everyone. Especially for those who are willing to try out any Linux-OS.
For first time users, it should, IMHO, become an out-of-the-box perfect system. This includes perhaps my suggestions.

@ Burt B.
In a little while, the Eee901 will be my only computer. Running ubuntu-eee 8.04.1.
To be left out of future improvements, because i will not re-install, would hurt me.
So I agree… the advise / modifications should be clear on the version used.
As is pretty usual, let’s separate the lets-try-everything-out crowd from the i-really-need this-working crowd.
I put myself in the latter category.

David S.

Comment by David S. — October 10, 2008 @ 11:30 pm

What exactly distinguishes, separates and Is Uniquely Different about ubuntu-eee 8.04.1?

How does it compare to Standard Ubuntu 8.04 LTS?

Because I find myself making requests and observations on This Forum Dedicated To ubuntu-eee 8.04.1 Upgrading To ubuntu-eee 8.10 that relate to LTS Only!

If I’m confusing what Only Applies to Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, then I’m just wasting all of our collective time and talent by barking up the wrong tree !!!

Maybe by posting what belongs only to ubuntu-eee 8.04.1 > 8.10 should be the starting point of our discussion here.

This Way, Those Who can actually pull off the actual upgrade from 8.04.1 to 8.10 Can Focus On The Task At Hand… And bring forth 8.10 On Schedule !!!

What say ye all?

Please Reply.

– Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 10, 2008 @ 8:25 pm

“Hi Jon,
Please add both firefox extensions NoScript and Adblock Plus.”

WTF!

are you too stupid to install it by your self?

Comment by buttz — October 10, 2008 @ 12:49 pm

Hi Jon,
Please add both firefox extensions NoScript and Adblock Plus. A little basic security when browsing, I think.
and is it possible to get an installation choice between the notebook-remix and a regular desktop? I prefer the regular one. ;)
last, i would like to see (a working installation of) GSynaptics included, so I can turn my touchpad off when using a mouse.

Keep up the good work!
David S.

Comment by David S. — October 10, 2008 @ 10:59 am

I installed Ubuntu EEE for a friend who wanted was unhappy with the OS it on her Asus EEEpc. I must say I was impressed, it was stable as all hell and it detected EVERY piece of hardware with no problems. I was so impressed with it I installed it on my Toshiba Satellite U305 just to see if it would work and as fate would have it, it ran like a dream. To tell you the truth, I kind of like the whole notebook remix UI, it makes my life a lot easier and I’ve gotten a lot of “that’s so cool, where did you get that?” questions from my classmates at school. I’ve gotten request to install it on a number of non-eee pc notebooks. So keep up the good work! I’m looking forward to what you have in store for us for 8.10!

Comment by paradoxtwin — October 10, 2008 @ 1:26 am

Just make sound and skype work. It is annoying to have fine tune every sound setting on the eee 900 just to have no sound after suspend. Please just make this work. For those who rely on skype for their work this is almost a show stopper. On the other hand I appreciate all your hard work and I am happy with the software choices.

Cheers D.

Comment by David — October 10, 2008 @ 1:00 am

I AM in accordance with buttz…

Specifically, “you should not intigrate so much software, you should better check if all runs on 701,900(a),901,1000…”

This would be extraordinary:

# 1 Build for the machine — that is, the lowest common denominator — 2G Surf (I guess); in this case.

# 2 Let the installation routine vector to our friends who own the higher level models.

How?

RIGOROUSLY AUTODETECT Every single chip, motherboard, CMOS BIOS, sound card/chip, SSDD, card slot, etc., etc., etc…ad nauseam.

Now, I understand that some of this already goes on in the background, But THIS COMMUNITY IS IN THE ENVIABLE POSITION TO STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE AND EXCEED ALL EXPECTATIONS !!!

There is a method to my madness:

What I’m proposing here is a structure and a matrix of building software that is both backwardly compatible and yet takes full advantage of the improvements of the newer models. This way of attacking the problem would also be portable to the other machines that are entering the fray of this new genre collectively known as ‘netbooks’.

Ok, on with the scenario…

After the successful installation, and the first re-start a window pops up and says: “It appears that your system has an official Intel UVM running @ 900Mhz ver. 15.0983.678.00658 blah, blah, with a bootstrap embedded ROM program build 087 ver. 12.601.435 Date 08-09-2007, blah, blah.”

Collect all of this information in a standard ASCII text file in the background and offer the user 3 options (buttons)…

Sounds Right

Don’t Know

Don’t Care…CONTINUE

I know that this may sound lame, cumbersome and time consuming… but the goal here is to identify the individuals with the technical savvy, prowess and expertise to disassemble the microcode of the various chips to fully exploit the full capability of each individual customized installation and machine – The level of each person’s ability will be found out by virtue of how they answer this 3 option question. Then, place a shortcut to this precise ‘hardware log’ in favorites and ask them if they would like to submit it to a public database much like Ubuntu’s Hardware testing program.

It is a big supposition, but I believe in my heart of hearts that we all left the ‘venerable’ Mr. Gates and the high priests of Silicone Valley BECAUSE WE WANTED MORE CONTROL OF OUR SOFTWARE, OUR MACHINES, OUR IRREPLACEABLE TIME, OUR INFORMATION, OUR DREAMS, OUR GOALS, OUR DESTINY AND OUR LIVES !!!

Ra, Ra, Boom… Sah !!!

“Stomp on their stomachs, break all their bones, we wanna hear their screams and their moans… If you follow our advice… You’ll Win a Clean Victory” !!!!! — MAD Magazine – circa ??

Geese.. I’m startin’ to sound like a cheerleader now…

Hmmm… Maybe I can some day become the US Pres.

Yeah, Right.

NOT !!

Cheers,

Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 9, 2008 @ 8:23 pm

auto-adjusted cpu frequency

Comment by bact' — October 9, 2008 @ 8:00 pm

and what about vodafone mobile betavine

Comment by antonio moreira — October 9, 2008 @ 6:11 pm

you should not intigrate so much software, you should better check if all runs on 701,900(a),901,1000

and there should be a fan and fsb control in the systemtray (p4_clockmod slows down everything)

Comment by buttz — October 9, 2008 @ 3:05 pm

How about Picasa 3 beta instead of Fspot?

Comment by Jon Ramvi — October 8, 2008 @ 10:16 am

Hi,

I’ve read an interesting article on linux boot (ultra)optimization : http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/

Maybe some ideas could be included in ubuntu-eee to make the boot quicker ? netbooks could be used as quick access devices, like (some) mobile phones do, if the boot where far quicker.

Comment by nicolas — October 8, 2008 @ 9:41 am

I haven’t been using eee-ubuntu long…about as long as I have had an eee but i personally have found using wicd far more reliable than using network manager for my wireless at home. I have had way less issues since I made the change I only use wep at present at home.

Comment by evilkarl — October 8, 2008 @ 6:57 am

You’re probably on to this:-
the 8.10 release should include drivers for the msi wind/advent machine as well. This means realtek drivers for LAN and Wifi. It’s mad to expect people to go out and buy an Intel Wifi solution when all you need is to detect and install the right drivers.

Comment by oldhand — October 8, 2008 @ 6:17 am

Manually add/remove from the menu (accessories, graphics, internet, etc…) custom programs.

Comment by Specked — October 7, 2008 @ 7:51 pm

The ability to not install the remix desktop and to start with the classic Ubuntu desktop.

Thank you.

Comment by Specked — October 7, 2008 @ 6:19 pm

ÜberSafe and Secure Internet Banking and Commerce. Yes, this is primarily a function of the browser with 256-bit encryption being the preferred choice. I also noticed that unbuntu-eee has automatic security updates running in the background.

But, you have to prove it to me as consumer and a viable market.

– Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 7, 2008 @ 6:08 pm

I’ve been using this build of Ubuntu on my Asus EEE 1000 since the day I got it (Which is now turning two months). I’ve come up with both good and bad sides about the build, generally Ubuntu on EEE as well. Read through the comments done here and I must say I agree with most of it.

What needs to be added/changed in 8.10 in my opinion:

* Desktop-switch – Optioned use of the Netbook desktop or “normal” Ubuntu desktop. I myself find the Netbook desktop far too “dumbed down” and feel much more comfortable within the normal Ubuntu desktop. It suits me better and I think this is a preference thing, it shouldn’t be removed – it should be an option.

* Touchpad/Trackpad drivers. This is something that works so-and-so compared to the drivers and possibilities in Windows. Both rotating pictures and disabling the trackpad altogether should be possible with a few clicks if not with a hotkey.

* Input devices – I’ve been struggling to get a few of those nifty gadgets of mine to work right out of the box, I do not believe that is a problem with this build but more Ubuntu’s fault. Both my Wacom Bamboo tablet and my Creative MP3 player have given me some trouble, though if you have some insight in troubleshooting and computers/Linux it should be easy to fix. Though for the usual user this needs fixing and I am extremely happy to see this being looked at and fixed in Ubuntu 8.10, so thumbs and hope up for that being a success.

* OSD and EEE Fn/Hotkeys – This should either be based on the Ubuntu OSD icons or the provided Asus EEE drivers. As it is in this build it currently uses Asus drivers and it seem to be out of sync with Ubuntu’s built-in OSD. Four of the EEE hotkeys do currently not work for me (Silver ones above the usual keyboard), perhaps it’s just some tweaking to be done but it does not work out of the box as it is.

* WLAN/BT switch – This freezes Ubuntu, I need to either have WLAN/BT enabled or disabled, if I try to enable or disable it live, the system crashes. This can also be fixed through configuring ini/scripts but does not work out of the box as it is.

* WLAN – The WLAN driver in this build seem sort of lacking, I like many others seem to have trouble browsing security-enabled networks. If I do get the connection up to a WLAN I seem to get a weaker signal than I would in XP or Xandros.

* Sound input/output – This doesn’t work very well right out of the box. If I connect a headset I have trouble hearing the sound, and the microphone won’t even work without several tweaks or configuring in the driver/settings. I’m not much in need of this but it should be looked at.

* Firefox stability issues – This is also a huge problem right out of the box, Firefox needs several tweaks and changes done to it’s settings to work fairly well, along with both Flash and Java. I haven’t tried running Firefox 3 in Ubuntu on a desktop or server with Ubuntu but on my EEE this has been troubling me and other users. I currently use Opera for the general browsing experience (But Opera has trouble with Flash and Java, so here I use Firefox, it’s a struggle but I survive).

Another thing I would love to see is a theme/package in GNOME customized and tailored specifically for the netbook/smaller screen kind of laptops. Along with applications supporting the smaller screens, every pixel we can scale or cram down and tailor for the netbook is a job well done. When surfing or using applications like GIMP, OpenOffice and so on the screen-space is needed, so the more the better.

I suppose that is the end of my list this far, it’s a few vital points that I would love sorted out in the release of Ubuntu 8.10 for the EEE generation. I really love what you guys have done for the Ubuntu users on EEE PCs this far, it’s truly an amazing job and I must tip my hat and say thank you so much for even making it possible.

Most of the problems I’ve encountered are fixable, it just takes time and is not easy at all to execute as a normal user, as other’s have said the Ubuntu EEE version is probably not even very known to the normal PC user, although it should – Ubuntu is great and Ubuntu EEE is even better.

Keep up the good work!

Comment by Sheel — October 7, 2008 @ 2:44 pm

- I think there needs to be an option to switch into a normal desktop, or at least the option to install it.

- The overall problem with the new netbooks desktop is that it feels like a crippled desktop. It’s precisely why most of us wanted to jump out of the default Xandros. The whole “easy” philosophy is gets too easily translated into “dumbed down”.

- we need 900 touchpad drivers properly installed so that we can turn off the touchpad while typing. This is a -huge- problem for those with big hands doing serious writing with it!

- I like the idea of not ever having to go into the terminal (but, of course, having it available). PPPOeconfig is a good example. Why shouldn’t it, like in Mandriva, be part of the networking GUI? Why should you have to go online to figure something out if your internet is broken?

- I know it’s already in the works, but it’s damned difficult to get into a lot of access-restricted WiFi networks. I spent weeks trying to get into a network with a few strange IP address tweaks that took two minutes to configure in XP.

- Some sort of smart dockbar system that maybe fades as one gets reading on the internet or writing in Office.

Comment by Trey Menefee — October 7, 2008 @ 11:55 am

5 sec boot … http://lwn.net/Articles/299088/

Comment by loic — October 7, 2008 @ 2:34 am

As a recent first time end-user — — my observations and comments may seem to be leaning toward the more cosmetic and trivial. But, from my understanding; we’re looking for the WOW Factor — “Right Out of the Box”.

First, please fix the (1) one error that shows up after booting the Live CD and running the internal Ubuntu “ Verify CD Integrity Check ”.

Trivial, Yes.

However, for us Obsessive Compulsive Types; it’s the end of the world as we know it.

Second, after hitting that first restart button after a full successful install, PLEASE someone write a Rigorous WLAN Wizard to get that baby on-line IMMEDIATELY !!

Let’s rev it up with some Instant Gratification – after all, that is the whole point isn’t it?

Ok, that thing fires up and I’m looking at this way cool brand spanking new desktop – I guess you guys and gals call it the ‘ netbook remix ‘ or something of the sort.

First thing I notice — — Is that the desktop is not showing me the weather next to the time – — ask the person’s location and Wow Them!

Also, I’m sort of an atomic clock geek – Oh God, if I didn’t set-up the Network Time Protocol (NTP), and displayed seconds… Well, I would have just lost my mind !!!

http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi

IP all the way !!

But, I digress…

Then there is that “ In-Gain: muted ” icon. I got rid of it, ’cause I don’t know what it’s for. Again, put system sounds on by default – coming off of XP, it offers reassurance. I had to remove Totem and install VLC because it would not handle a mms stream even after installing totem-xine.

Problem #1: No flashy visualizations – old habits and expectations I might add — are hard to break – unfortunately.

Problem #2: No Recycle Bin / Undo when I inadvertently delete a Favorites Icon – it doesn’t end up in the trash, it goes directly to Computer Heaven !

No Thunderbird e-mail client pre-installed and default.

Sorry for repeating myself, but I’m utterly amazed and excited that this community is moving so quickly to implement 8.10 — EVEN BEFORE THE 1st ANNIVERSARY OF UBUNTU EEE !!!
Other than that, this software has truly, truly restored The Joy of Computing, and has literally reclaimed my investment after my XP laptop actually went up in smoke – good riddance :)

I know that many, many men and women have invested countless hours to bring this viable alternative to the masses! Bravo!! My Hat is Off to YOU the many unsung heroes and heroines who have made this possible and my life easier !!

Cool Beans.

I AM Grateful,

Burt B.
P.S. I’m a neophyte. I hope that I’m not annoying anyone out there – If I is, please let me know.

Comment by Burt B. — October 6, 2008 @ 3:35 pm

This might be a bit much to squeeze in to the next release, but some or all of the power saving tricks from http://www.lesswatts.org would be pretty cool. The Eee already has impressive battery life, but the longer one can go between charges the better.

It will also be really nice if we can just “upgrade” from 8.04.1, rather than having to do a fresh install.

Comment by Misha Gale — October 6, 2008 @ 2:48 pm

and I rather prefer GTK+ IM over SCIM.

SCIM small popup is quite annoying to me .. esp in this small screen of Eee PC.

Comment by bact' — October 6, 2008 @ 11:19 am

JEdit (and i think other JVM apps as well) shows is own title bar that is not in the taskbar. This makes JEdit effectively has two title bars: 1) its own full title bar (like normal apps in typical window environment) and 2) its title bar in Netboook Remix’s taskbar.

Already submitted this bug to Sun Developers Network (not approved yet), but like to remind Ubuntu Eee team about this as well :)

Comment by bact' — October 6, 2008 @ 11:16 am

Overall eee-ubuntu is fantastic. As ever there can always be percieved improvements that each and every user would find unique to themselves. Personally I’m currently on BCS Computer Science course so a working text editor and compiler would be good. There are a stagggering six people in my tutorial class alone with eee’s.

At first we were using a hacked thedora build, primarily to match the university I’m at. We then moved onto eee-xubuntu and then I’ve made the leap ubuntu-eee (in the process of getting the rest converted). On a personal note it would be useful to have emacs and something like Kate preinstalled. These are relatively small programs that I have found essential as a proggrammer (albeit a begginer).

Again I’m a novice but something like UnionFS or the AUFS seen in the Acer Aspire One series would be a dream come true. I’m not sure if this is possible but it would give huge advantages to those like myself on older eee’s (mines the 4gb).

Also, I’m not tottally confident in altering the eee code. This is very apparent when trying to alter code to reduce “swaps”. If this was done already I think all users would benefit. Or a more precise wiki would be just as handy.

Lastly would be alterations to the interface to prevent the “shaking” when scrolling or moving across the page. A little annoyance, but can be overlooked thanks to the brilliant work already done.

Keep up the good work!

Comment by James — October 6, 2008 @ 10:54 am

Longer battery life?

I’ve got 5.5 with all internal devices working on my Asus 901 with default Xandros.
But with ubuntu-eee installed – only 3.5 hours and I saw 7.5 hours in some screenshots of customized regular ubuntu.

Comment by SeaJey — October 6, 2008 @ 9:45 am

I hope they will improve the WLAN Support. The driver in 8.04.1 is quite buggy and the signal strengh is much below than on the original Xandros. I have a lot of problems connecting to WLAN – sometimes it works, sometimes not – awful situation. But nevertheless Ubuntu-eee is the best choice for my EEE PC 900A. Thanks for the great product.

Comment by Markus Brandstätter — October 6, 2008 @ 7:14 am

Can this be installed in Dell Mini 9? Or is there another version that is similar to Ubuntu Eee that I can install in Dell Mini 9?

Like the Remix interface. :)

Comment by Jonathan — October 6, 2008 @ 7:13 am

Thunderbird instead of Evolution

– Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 6, 2008 @ 4:27 am

I am the proud owner of a 1000H, and I couldn’t be happier. There seems to be plenty of development specific to the eee. My friend owns a Acer Aspire 1 and he has had more difficulties finding a distro that supports his netbook. The hardware in nearly all of this generations netbooks is very similar aside from things like the webcams, wifi chipsets, and maybe 1 or 2 other devices? I think it would be great to perhaps put some other patches on Adam’s kernel to help Ubuntu EEE support all netbooks better.

Comment by shoegoo — October 6, 2008 @ 1:07 am

Netbook remix/regular desktop changer would be really, really fantastic.

Comment by Ross — October 5, 2008 @ 11:46 pm

In reference to ‘less is more’… gotta have Open Office or I would be lost. Can you remove instead SCIM Input Method? What is it?

– Burt B.
P.S. Oh, I had to install Java and Flash Player immediately to have a usable browsing system.

Comment by Burt B. — October 5, 2008 @ 5:06 pm

Oops.. Just realized that the speaker icon that boots up in mute by default is actually In-gain: muted. Now, which is it? Line-In Gain or Mic Level Gain? The speaker icon denotes output. Please change the icon and the label. Also, turn on the system sounds by default — it’s reassuring that I did something right when I hear the cool music on boot-up. — Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 5, 2008 @ 4:54 pm

I have a 900. I do not have much to ask for when it comes to 8.10. The features one get with Ubuntu 8.10 will do.

There are three things I’d love to get fixed, though:

- Internal mic should work
- I’d love to be able to lock the screen and recover without having to use «Switch user».
- The Fn+F2 toggle should work

If one could improve graphic performance and decrease boot time, one would have something pretty close to perfect, if you ask me.

./nalle.

Comment by Nalle Berg — October 5, 2008 @ 8:27 am

Hello,

Burt B. here… I’m a newbie.

Just wanted to let you know from an outsider’s perspective how my installation of 8.04.1 went so possibly you can glean what to add/change in 8.10 — I’m an end user.

Hardware: Standard unaltered 512MB/4GB Model 701 w/camera.

Pre-install:

1) Downloaded iso
2) MD5 checksum – matched
3) Burned with Infra Recorder under XP went well.
4) Attached USB CD drive and hard-wired LAN cable — both recognized by BIOS… Cool.
5) Changed the boot order in BIOS and someone somewhere on a post said, “change the OS from ‘finished’ to ‘start’, so I did. BIOS ver. 401 from factory.
6) Booted from the Live CD – a-ok
7) Now, here is the kicker… to be on the safe side, I followed the instructions verbatim for the Installation CD Integrity Check @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck — came up with 1 error.
8) Hmmm… bad CD, bad burn, whatever… snapped it in two, burned the iso again, this time with Sonic/Roxio under XP; re-did the above procedure, and lo and behold — AGAIN, 1 ERROR !!
9) Oh well, install it anyway.

Installation:

a) LAN cable, Live CD and USB CD drive… well, it went like a charm.
b) Upon successful installation, hit the restart button – F2 – Changed boot order to HD first & changed OS from ‘start’ to ‘finished’.
c) First boot – first impressions… Very Beautiful color gradient on the splash screen – same font as 8.04 LTS… Loving it already.
d) First thing that caught my eye is that the speaker control boots up in mute as default… no big deal.
e) NO WIFI !!!
f) Tried 7 ways to Sunday to manually configure a HEX WEP DHCP. No Joy.
g) Went downstairs to plug into LAN cable and looked up answers @ https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-eee/+question/44829
h) Just for the heck of it, I rebooted, F2 – WLAN was enabled, I disabled, F10 and let if fully boot. Rebooted again, re-enabled WLAN and… drum roll please… WiFi flew like lightning!!!
i) Go figure…
j) Now, I’m Livin’ The Dream !!!

This OS is so much better than anything else out there.

– Burt B.

Comment by Burt B. — October 5, 2008 @ 7:47 am

Actually, I think OpenOffice.org must be 2.4, the last stable build, which it works perfectly on my EEE 701 computer.

I think 8.10 must have a faster boot time and fix any of the bugs people have found on the last version, which I use everyday.

Regards,

Salva

Comment by Xenon — October 5, 2008 @ 4:48 am

http://freshmeat.net/projects/launch2net/

Comment by boris — October 4, 2008 @ 3:48 pm

Arrrggg… I feel a BIG mistake is about to be made here! The whole point of eee ubuntu was that advanced users could run ubuntu on their eees without having to go through the hassle of figuring out how to configure drivers, function keys etc – which can take a good day or more even for a linux ‘power user’.

The *average* user would never use or even know about eee ubuntu anyway, and will still with the shipped default xandros or xp on their eees. So WHY TRY TO CATER TO THIS NON-EXISTENT CROWD?

I would eat my hat if ANYONE who has installed eee ubuntu doesn’t know how to install office through synaptics.

PLEASE: Remember that sometimes, LESS IS MORE.

PS: thank you for your fantastic work.

Comment by eeeubuntufan — October 4, 2008 @ 3:08 pm

openoffice 3.0 is still in beta, so I wouldn’t include it at first.

As far as I’m concerned, I’d take the intrepid features + working wifi, usual eee fixes and Adam kernel.

I’d also love an easy switch between network remix and classic interface.

About java, windows fonts, closed codecs, yeah, maybe, but it’s very easy to add, so maybe you should include a short readme/fas file to tell people unfamiliar with ubuntu how to do it.

Actually, i didn’t upgrade to 8.04.1 for that reason, because I knew 8.10 was just around the corner.

Keep up the good work, Jon

Comment by Denis — October 4, 2008 @ 12:40 pm

keyboard layout (language) indicator installed as default ?

Comment by bact' — October 4, 2008 @ 9:05 am

Working WIFI support. Ubuntu eee 804.1 does NOT support the eee PC 1000 WIFI.

Comment by Bob Gantt — October 3, 2008 @ 8:47 pm

Hi,
I’d like to have a version, that supports EEE hardware, a basic graphical software but without a full style software.
i guess everybody can use synaptic …
kind regards
Alex

Comment by Alex — October 3, 2008 @ 2:53 pm

I see eee-control missing … this ultimate tool should not be forgotten http://greg.geekmind.org/eee-control/

Comment by trin — October 3, 2008 @ 11:38 am

Faster booting would be awesome, indeed!

Apart from that (from this novice Linux user) I think this is a great package for my Eee. A proper wireless manager is the only thing I’m really missing, there are several problems with what’s on it at the moment. The problems I’m thinking of are all filed as bugs AFAIK.

Takk for bra jobbing ;)

Comment by TucknDar — October 3, 2008 @ 10:06 am

you may wana check this one..

http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/

Comment by Akshathkumar Shetty — October 3, 2008 @ 6:19 am

hallo, tanax 4 the good system,
l have a strange audio problem

////////
*l can only use from 1 sourse
so when l listing to mp3
l dont have any sound on firefox
and so on. ( eee 900 )
\\\\\\\\\

*l hope to see a update version

*support for 2 screens.(not clone. 2 screens.)

*more codex so l can see xvid and stream video over the web.
or vlc

*amsn

*wine

*rar support

*a torrent client

*a better and faster web browser

*a e-mail reader

*a over-clock system to the cpu

Comment by boris — October 3, 2008 @ 5:27 am

Hello, I’m trying Ubuntu-eee on my 901 for some days now and it looks slim and promising.

I would like to see the following in 8.10-release:

* An option for encrypted root, as in Ubuntu alternate and Debian’s d-i. It is a very good feauture for laptops, instead of only “private homedirectory”

* Smother graphics and compiz-support for effects, maby a “fisheye” for navigating and a transparent terminal. The GPU o the EeePC are able to hanle that.

* OpenVPN-client/gui

Thanks for listening!

Comment by Anders Haggstrom — October 3, 2008 @ 2:05 am

How about integrating the optimized kernel from http://www.array.org/ubuntu/ which boots on the eee in half the time?

(Of course, this is assuming that Adam McDaniel updates it for 8.10)

Comment by Zan — October 2, 2008 @ 10:52 pm

full support for wifi damned atheros (WPA)

thank you for your work

Comment by antonio — October 2, 2008 @ 6:28 pm

I would like to see, user friendly support for HASDPA USB modems, unbuntu eee is great, everything I have works, except for my 3G modem on the UK 3 network.

Comment by Andy M — October 2, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

Hallo Jon,thank great work.
My girlfriend is also learning ubunto thank to your work.
As far as the release 8.10 is concerned the only think i miss is a support fra yahoo and msn video chat.

Comment by bibo — October 2, 2008 @ 12:37 pm

Good setup, didnt want the xandros that came on my eee 4g and i am a mint user at home loaded that onto my new eee but not exactly a good match elyssa and the eee! so found your ubuntu eee downloaded and was amazed, only 2 issues one is tall windows are constrained and wont go upwards! and cant drive the webcam, look forward to that being fixed and maybe the hotkeys, wish i was clever enough to help but alas ill have to donate. Thanks.

Comment by dave oakley — October 1, 2008 @ 11:24 pm

Fix Fn+F2 on 901. That’s all I really need!

Comment by jp — October 1, 2008 @ 3:24 pm

I did write an app (like the eeectl for windows) wich controls & monitors the cpu fsb, cpu voltaje, fan speed, camera (on-off), wireless (on-off), everything thru eee module and give a simple interface, the only problem it is that is written in php-gtk and you need php-gtk to run it (i have done some search, but i can’t find any reliable compiler), anyway if you want the source, just contact me.

Comment by XeKtRuM — October 1, 2008 @ 2:10 pm

1. the second ssd should mount at startup because all the files i want to access with for example rythmbox are missing.. so i first have to mount the second ssd to see all my mp3s.

2. write and include someting like eeectl for cpu and fanspeed (p4 clockmod isnt that good)

3. something like asus tray so switch resolution to 1024*768 (scrolling screen)

4. full support for eeepc 900a

thx =D

Comment by abra cadaver — October 1, 2008 @ 1:56 pm

I guess that netbook remix/standard desktop change button is the most important thing, because I guess many users expect this to be done.
OpenOffice also should be inclued, because all users have to install it anyway. And may be integration of windows fonts could be a good thing, because for novices in linux it can be difficult to do it by themselves. I know it’s a not good opensource way, but as soon as we have preinstalled Skype, it’s OK.
And, by the way, the most important and compulsory – modification of a new kernel :)

Comment by Kether2 — October 1, 2008 @ 11:46 am

I think all the codec for music and video should be already install and the open office 3 is a must have…

Jon keep up the good work

Comment by Gonçalo Rocha — October 1, 2008 @ 10:21 am

Just a quick note to let you know that after the round trip from PayPal, a lot of error messages fill the screen (appears it’s trying to call some sort of “thank you” function).

Comment by Wally Grotophorst — October 1, 2008 @ 2:17 am

I totally agree with Alain de Carolis. I’m really wary of loosing functionalities by switching from Xandros to Ubuntu eee, that’s why I still keep observing this site instead of installing, although I’d like to free myself from that un-updatable Xandros mess. But is an updatable system which doesn’t really work a better solution? Certainly not.
The hardware is quite standardized, so getting it to work at it should should be possible.

Comment by Peer — October 1, 2008 @ 12:16 am

I hope to see 8.10 working 100% with my 900A.

I hate Xandros, but at least that distro was working as expected.

With Ubuntu eee my wifi barely workd, no functions buttons (at least no all of them), no internal mic.

After everything works we can start discussing about features.

Comment by Alain De Carolis — September 30, 2008 @ 7:18 pm

Jon,

My requests, in some kind of order:

1. Faster boot time if possible.
2. Longer RC-testing period with more iterations before gold. 8.04.1 RC2 hasn’t solved my 901′s issues with wireless toggle and suspend mode.
3. Windows fonts and codecs would be GREATLY appreciate. The default serif gives me a lot of trouble in FF3.
4. Lots of love for 900/901/1000 Eee models.
5. Open Office 3. I have to say I like the collection of installed software with the current version!

Notes: I am a fan of NBR, but I see why others want the option of KDE.

Thanks, Jon!

Comment by Peter — September 30, 2008 @ 6:53 pm

Advanced panel for accessing the touchpad settings within the mouse panel.

Comment by mr_raider — September 30, 2008 @ 6:38 pm

In my opinion, what we need is a good system that works out of the box with a easy NBR on/off switch, a few apps to get started surfing the web, a media player with good format support and a (stripped down) Office sollution will do for me.
Games and other apps like Gimp, is something I find easy to add later. But then again I’m a advanced user who propably has forgotten how it is to be fresh… Anyway:

Everybody has their taste of what they wan’t/like and I think that YOU (Jon) must decide who your target audience is, and make your choice based on that.
As long as you keep the possibility for customization open for the advanced users, you will have a winner.

Good luck choosing the features.

I’m a happy camper on a 900 running 8.04 who cares more about smooth running, user friendly systems than fast bootup time and tons of Apps.

Comment by neilmcnasty — September 30, 2008 @ 5:27 pm

Lu, Johan, please clarify what’s not working on 901 and I’ll check it out.

edd, it will be possible to upgrade :)

geraldcor, thanks! We’re going to try to get the data first hand to be able to test ubuntu eee on it and so on however. Thanks again

stani, that Would be nice!

OK, so ideas I’ve got now are:
Games, Light weight release, full disk encryption (wouldn’t home directory be enough?), VLC instead of Totem, Wine, Remove unneeded packages, Improve boot time, netbook changes (embed Nautilus, super button to Home, link to Add / Remove…), Mozilla Prism, Jackfield / widgets

Comment by Jon Ramvi — September 30, 2008 @ 4:26 pm

I would love to see full support for 901.

Comment by Johan — September 30, 2008 @ 2:16 pm

I think making the Add/Remove app for apps available by default, and embedding it in System Utilitys category would be nice.

And the NetbookRemix – Desktop switch is a must.

Comment by ticking — September 30, 2008 @ 1:23 pm

Boot in 5 seconds! See http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/299483/fa0208e48cf3eeac/

Comment by stani — September 30, 2008 @ 12:05 pm

Jon, I saw a blog entry about getting info on various other netbooks and the commands to use to get you the info. I can’t find that post and I was looking forward to getting you the info on the olpc. Do you still need/want this info?

Comment by geraldcor — September 30, 2008 @ 4:38 am

Perhaps Jackfield? This is a program that runs/displays Apple Dashboard widgets in Gnome.
Site: http://www.kryogenix.org/code/jackfield/

Comment by Sonic — September 30, 2008 @ 2:30 am

I agree on replacing totem with vlc.

Comment by Oddmund — September 30, 2008 @ 12:11 am

It is necessary, that customisation of connection about the Internet through Bluetooth DUN/PAN and GPRS worked “from a box”.

Comment by antboro — September 29, 2008 @ 10:14 pm

My current setup is EEEbuntu with the custom kernel from http://www.array.org/ubuntu/ which makes a great combo. I’ve also added the Netbook remix stuff, and find it to be fantastic.

For the Netbook remix, a couple of changes I would like to see.
1) I wish the Gnome switcher dock app that is simulating “tabs” could have an X (close) like a Firefox tab. 2) I wish that when you click on a folder from the right side of the “Go Home” app it would open in the center of that app, the same as the left side “App Categories” do. Basically, I’m looking for Nautilus to be embedded into Go Home. I think similarly embedding Gecko might be interesting, but Nautilus is more important.

Also, mapping the home key to show the Go Home app is absolutely critical. This can be done using the keyboard shortcut preference app, but really this needs to be done by the distro.

Cheese by default (with working camera/mic).

I think Mozilla Prism might be a nice touch for shortcuts that launch Ajax apps (Google Notebook, Google Docs, etc) since it provides none of the Firefox chrome that just consumes precious screen real estate.

Comment by Dan Martin — September 29, 2008 @ 9:38 pm

cut down boot time.
Mandriva shows impressive progress in this.

With SSD and fixed set of hardwares, Ubuntu Eee should try achieve some boot time improvements :)

Comment by bact' — September 29, 2008 @ 8:18 pm

I would also install instead of Totem VLC player by default if possible. Wine by default might be nice thing.

i would also cleanup system more from not needed packages.

Comment by Kaien — September 29, 2008 @ 8:13 pm

agree with call for full disk encryption
+
will this be an update from 8.04.1 on will a fresh install be required?
keep fighting the good fight :P

Comment by edd — September 29, 2008 @ 5:14 pm

A full disk encryption option for the truly paranoid would be a nice option…

Comment by Nik — September 29, 2008 @ 2:35 pm

maybe EEE Applet should be taken into consideration?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/eee-applet

and I really would apreciate:
Netbook remix mode / Regular desktop mode – changer

Comment by bullx — September 29, 2008 @ 11:20 am

I’d like every necessary codec and font. The less I need to install afterwords, the better. That being said, how about a lightweight release for all of us that don’t want Gimp, OpenOffice, and other local crap? The web browser is my weapon of choice these days, and only Photoshop is truly necessary besides that, so a web version of Ubuntu Eee would be sweet.

And yes, you need decent codecs and Microsoft fonts to truly enjoy your web experience. ;)

Comment by TD Hedengren — September 29, 2008 @ 8:50 am

Jon, I think OpenOffice 3 is a must. The EEE (and other “netbooks”) are made to be portable solutions for when you’re on the road or on the streets. OpenOffice is a very efficient tool for solving problems, and its updates in the 3rd version are welcome for this kind of usage (specially when we talk about compatibility — who knows what kind of file types are going to pop up out there?).

The new network manager is a must, also. I have installed it in both old and new Ubuntu EEE, and it works great (although my cell phone operator doesn’t) through GPRS (I’ll get 3G only in november). In my city and in my region, it’s hard to find open or public wi-fi internet access. However, cell phone networks are widespread, some of them work even in wild beaches and offshore.

I also think all games shouldn’t be dropped off. Basic ones like Solitaire, Mines or Mahjongg should stay. I don’t think they’d weigh enough to make Ubuntu EEE significantly heavier.

Actually, as long as cam and mic, office tools, file and hardware management, wi-fi and GPRS/EDGE or 3G work out-of-the-box,the rest is just a bonus.

Comment by Breno Peck — September 29, 2008 @ 5:38 am

I think whatever it will consist of one thing for sure it must be complete – all hardware must work under it including the 901. It must be so good that Asus couldn’t resist replacing this over the orignal Linux! ;)

Comment by Lu — September 29, 2008 @ 12:48 am

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